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03/09/2012

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Dave Kosiur

This switch to a new process version will inevitably cause headaches; in my case, it already has! My current solution is to not convert any of the images I currently have in Lightroom to the new process model, as I have some presets which change significantly. I'll probably go back and convert some of my images on a case-by-case basis.

There is a bug in Lightroom 4 that Adobe knows about and plans to fix -- Lightroom 4 automatically resets the tone curve of any image in the catalog, not just newly-processed or newly-imported ones. Any work that you might have done with custom tones curves disappears.

Jeff in Boston

All I can say is... Thank heavens Adobe has the wisdom to allow you to continue to use the older process versions (2003 & 2010)!

And

"There is a bug in Lightroom 4 that Adobe knows about and plans to fix -- Lightroom 4 automatically resets the tone curve of any image in the catalog, not just newly-processed or newly-imported ones. Any work that you might have done with custom tones curves disappears."

WOW.. that is a serious bug! I knew there was a reason why I decided to wait till 4.1 or 4.2 before I start using it for real work.

Brooks Jensen

Must be more to it than that, though, because the image I use in this example does not use a tone curve at all. Zeroes across the board. I can only conclude that the visible differences I'm seeing are strictly associated with the Process Version update. I'll be patient, however, because Adobe has a pretty good track record of getting these kinds of things fixed in a reasonable time. We'll see.
Brooks

Henkki Zakkinen

Hmm, regarding that bug. I guess that a backup of the catalogue and a reimport later as soon as the bug is fixed will do. I'll make the jump - now! Let you know if I find anything else :)

Henkki

John Schwaller

Lesson learn....don't change the process version on old images unless you have time and are willing to readjust them.

If you like it leave it alone. If you want to try toimprove it, LR 4 will probably, but not always, allow you to.

John

Henkki Zakkinen

Looking at your photo and the settings, Brooks, first thing I notice is that the Blacks slider is up to 99. Pretty high, I guess that is why we see so much of an effect with this particular photo. Else, I think we have to wait till the bug is fixed, then re-evaluate after a fresh catalog-conversion. Bit embarrassing for the guys at Adobes, but not as big an issue as some people make it.
Cheers
Henkki

rusty-frame

Hey I've actually had the same problem as you! I sync updated a lot of my photos after testing the process update on a few and saw that it was mostly OK or better. Turns out for the pictures which I had edited to achieve a very specific effect were now all ruined. but I'm way too far down the line to Ctrl Z to undo. Simply syncing the 2010 process doesn't completely solve the problem either. Any ideas? Thanks!

Henkki Zakkinen

Hi,

there apparently is more than one issue. Adobe is working and released a script to testers today. Fixes part of the problem:
http://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/lr4_deleted_all_my_tone_curve_adjustments

Still we see very odd behaviour. But then some of the oddities may be features, unavoidable side effects of the process version change.

As long as you keep your old catalogs, you're safe though.

Best
Henkki

Glenn Guy

It looks like there's about 1 stop of extra shadow detail being pulled out of the new process 2012 version. There also seems to be a tiny bit of extra highlight detail (probably in the reds) being pulled back.

For new images, that have yet to be processed, that's going to be amazing.

The comparision you've provided is enlightening Brooks. But I think it would make sense to show one last image - a re-worked version of the new process 2012 version to compare it to your final 2010 process version. I would expect a rich, yet more detailed result.

Once the bugs get sorted out I think folks will be very happy. In the meantime I'm making decisions on converting previously processed images to the new process 2012 on a case my case basis.

Thanks for the opportunity to comment.

Cheerio,

Glenn Guy
http://TravelPhotographyGuru.com

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